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Why don't we allow Xenforo, vBulletin or IP.Board?

Hans

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As you maybe aware we suspend websites that have installed Xenforo, vBulletin or ip.board due to several reasons.

Firstly we found out that nearly everyone hosting them on free hosting plans were nulled scripts.

Secondly if they can afford Xenforo, vBulletin or ip.board for a large price, why can't they buy paid hosting for €0,50?

Therefore in order to prevent abuse of nulled scripts, we have permanently banned these software. Our automatic abuse checker runs and checks for these sites and suspends them automatically.

However, we do allow them to be hosted on our Premium plans. As the question now is a bit of a paradox, because if the servers are located in the Netherlands and it is offshore then this should be allowed, right? Yes this is in principle allowed, but the problem is that on the premium hosting the services are fairly little abused because they know it costs money and with free hosting abuse is much higher, so if you use nulled scripts on the premium hosting however, we will not take any action.
 

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That makes sense. If someone can afford the crazy price of vBulletin they can easily get a VPS. Personally, I don't think forums are good for shared hosting packages. That's exactly how I discovered VPS Hosting years ago too. I had this quite active forum which, free shared hosting services couldn't handle. Didn't last long on Paid Shared hosting either. But it did survive about a year or so at Godaddy Dulex shared hosting package which supposed to be given unlimited resources. This was when I learned these so-called unlimited packages are not really unlimited. Godaddy asked to ask to either upgrade to one of their VPS Servers (120$ a month those days) or move the forum out of their shared hosting. That's when I found out about VPS. :) So the bottom line is Shared Hosting packages really hard to handle active forums well.
 

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The point is that on the free hosting that is not allowed due to the high abuse, we do allow it on the VIP or SuperVIP plans or all plans from HostLease because the servers can handle it easily, We have done a test and we can 900 forums can easily run on the performance we now have on servers, so no problem, but for free customers we unfortunately have to set limits to prevent abuse. But I don't get that Godaddy asked you to pay $ 120 a month for a VPS. A shared hosting can handle that just fine, @pacific Spirit knows exactly how to maintain a server ;)
 

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The point is that on the free hosting that is not allowed due to the high abuse, we do allow it on the VIP or SuperVIP plans or all plans from HostLease because the servers can handle it easily, We have done a test and we can 900 forums can easily run on the performance we now have on servers, so no problem, but for free customers we unfortunately have to set limits to prevent abuse. But I don't get that Godaddy asked you to pay $ 120 a month for a VPS. A shared hosting can handle that just fine, @pacific Spirit knows exactly how to maintain a server ;)

I had this problem with Godaddy a long time ago like in 2009. Even in the unlimited package, there are limitations like CPU usage and a number of database connections that can happen at a given moment. It's no a problem hosting any number of forums but the problem is when these are hyperactive. Like 100-150 members keep posting all the time. But it's good you guys can handle it. :)
 

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I had this problem with Godaddy a long time ago like in 2009. Even in the unlimited package, there are limitations like CPU usage and a number of database connections that can happen at a given moment. It's no a problem hosting any number of forums but the problem is when these are hyperactive. Like 100-150 members keep posting all the time. But it's good you guys can handle it. :)
We know what performance is required for a website to work properly, we also update our servers from time to time. The better the hosting runs, the better we expand our services. Hope you can use VIP for free soon. But every provider limit their CPU, so Hostlease does it even.
 

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What possible is to checking website who running those scripts to use a license verification.
 
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